Discussion:
[Newbies] Time to Vote!
Ron Teitelbaum
2018-02-02 13:06:13 UTC
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Hi All,

Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME TO VOTE!

You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard for people to vote?

We are on track to have our lowest vote count ever. The number of voters
is going down year to year but the drop this year is significant. I'm sure
we can do better!

Please let me know if you have trouble finding your ballot. I can resend
it to you.

Thanks!

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum
Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
2018-02-02 23:32:08 UTC
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Hi,

I have seen the voting call, but I don't know who I could vote for. I
think that we have excellent candidates list, but having low voting
rates is, for me a symptom of low communication rates, not about the
voting candidates, but about what is happening in general in the community.

So, how can approach the more structural program about improving
community participation and communication so, we can have a more
informed voting campaign and proactivity from voters and the community
in general.

Cheers,

Offray
Post by Ron Teitelbaum
Hi All,
Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME TO VOTE!
You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard for people to vote?
We are on track to have our lowest vote count ever.  The number of
voters is going down year to year but the drop this year is
significant.  I'm sure we can do better!
Please let me know if you have trouble finding your ballot.  I can
resend it to you. 
Thanks!
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum 
_______________________________________________
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Ron Teitelbaum
2018-02-03 00:34:07 UTC
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Hi Offray,

I'd be happy to add you to the voting list. Let me know and I'll add you
for next year.

I agree with you. Many years ago I used to be much more active (if you can
believe that). My idea at the time was that we would actually have a
period of time for campaigning. For a while, I started doing community
interviews for news.squeak.org. I had tried also presenting questions, but
I got some feedback that my questions were too focused on what I wanted and
didn't represent the community at large. At that point, I tried to
encourage the community to ask questions instead but that didn't work
either because nobody asked questions. I'm was actually happy that
everyone that is running this year gave some indication of what they are
interested in doing and why they were running. See
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6590 - Posts related to the Election
(chronological).

I can tell you that for the group of people we have running there are no
bad votes! Everyone is terrific! I could highlight some differences but
that won't really help because the community members were correct, I AM
BIASED. :)

What I would recommend is getting on the voters' list. Talk to your
friends and get to know the people that are active in the community. You
might have to subscribe to Squeak-Dev or VM-Dev to get to know people
better. Most of the candidates don't often post to the beginners' list.
The beginners' list has always had a soft spot in my heart. I was here from
the very beginning. That is why I include it in my election emails. Wow,
just looking the beginners' list started in May 2006[1], it's been 12
years! Once you have a good idea of what the community needs, you could
ask questions! Talk to the candidates. Your questions will probably be
helpful for others that didn't take the time to ask but might want to know
the answer too.

Do let us know If you have other suggestions on ways we can improve or
write me directly. I will do whatever I can to help!

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

[1]
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2006-May/thread.html

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
Post by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi,
I have seen the voting call, but I don't know who I could vote for. I
think that we have excellent candidates list, but having low voting rates
is, for me a symptom of low communication rates, not about the voting
candidates, but about what is happening in general in the community.
So, how can approach the more structural program about improving community
participation and communication so, we can have a more informed voting
campaign and proactivity from voters and the community in general.
Cheers,
Offray
Hi All,
Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME TO VOTE!
You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard for people to vote?
We are on track to have our lowest vote count ever. The number of voters
is going down year to year but the drop this year is significant. I'm sure
we can do better!
Please let me know if you have trouble finding your ballot. I can resend
it to you.
Thanks!
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
Beginners mailing list
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
2018-02-05 15:39:55 UTC
Permalink
Hi Ron,

I'm pretty sure that the people in the voting list are pretty good. I
can't vote because I don't know how to choose one over, without being
part of other mailing list, which brings me back to what is happening in
this list and how to improve it.

I think that we all have been responsible for the silent times on this
list. I remember it being pretty active when I subscribed, back in 2006
in the times of SqueakFest and OLPC. In fact 2006 was the first time I
left my country to attend to SqueakFest. After that I changed, but the
community was kind of the same. I found other Smalltalk variants more
suited with my needs, but I hold dearly Etoys and many of ideas that
crystallize in several variants of Smalltalk.

Maybe I could talk about the themes that I feel are connected with this
list despite of using Pharo to implement them: Critical code+data
literacy for young and adults, hackerspaces & hackathons as alternative
educational spaces and so on. If that is on-topic, I will be glad to
share them. I really liked the strong educational focus of this
community and I think that we can spread that focus to non-school
contexts, despite of our Smalltalk flavor.

Cheers,

Offray
Post by Ron Teitelbaum
Hi Offray,
I'd be happy to add you to the voting list.  Let me know and I'll add
you for next year.
I agree with you.  Many years ago I used to be much more active (if
you can believe that).  My idea at the time was that we would actually
have a period of time for campaigning.  For a while, I started doing
community interviews for news.squeak.org <http://news.squeak.org>.  I
had tried also presenting questions, but I got some feedback that my
questions were too focused on what I wanted and didn't represent the
community at large.  At that point, I tried to encourage the community
to ask questions instead but that didn't work either because nobody
asked questions.  I'm was actually happy that everyone that is running
this year gave some indication of what they are interested in doing
and why they were running.  See http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6590 -
Posts related to the Election (chronological).  
I can tell you that for the group of people we have running there are
no bad votes!  Everyone is terrific!  I could highlight some
differences but that won't really help because the community members
were correct, I AM BIASED.  :) 
What I would recommend is getting on the voters' list.  Talk to your
friends and get to know the people that are active in the community. 
You might have to subscribe to Squeak-Dev or VM-Dev to get to know
people better.  Most of the candidates don't often post to
the beginners' list.  The beginners' list has always had a soft spot
in my heart. I was here from the very beginning.  That is why I
include it in my election emails.  Wow, just looking the beginners'
list started in May 2006[1], it's been 12 years!  Once you have a good
idea of what the community needs, you could ask questions!  Talk to
the candidates. Your questions will probably be helpful for others
that didn't take the time to ask but might want to know the answer too.  
Do let us know If you have other suggestions on ways we can improve or
write me directly.  I will do whatever I can to help!  
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum 
[1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2006-May/thread.html 
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi,
I have seen the voting call, but I don't know who I could vote
for. I think that we have excellent candidates list, but having
low voting rates is, for me a symptom of low communication rates,
not about the voting candidates, but about what is happening in
general in the community.
So, how can approach the more structural program about improving
community participation and communication so, we can have a more
informed voting campaign and proactivity from voters and the
community in general.
Cheers,
Offray
Post by Ron Teitelbaum
Hi All,
Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME TO VOTE!
You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard for people to vote?
We are on track to have our lowest vote count ever.  The number
of voters is going down year to year but the drop this year is
significant.  I'm sure we can do better!
Please let me know if you have trouble finding your ballot.  I
can resend it to you. 
Thanks!
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum 
_______________________________________________
Beginners mailing list
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
<http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners>
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http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
<http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners>
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Ron Teitelbaum
2018-02-05 15:47:31 UTC
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Hi Offray,

Thank you for your email. Certainly, I think what you have to say is
on-topic. Please do share.

All the best,

Ron

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
Post by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Ron,
I'm pretty sure that the people in the voting list are pretty good. I
can't vote because I don't know how to choose one over, without being part
of other mailing list, which brings me back to what is happening in this
list and how to improve it.
I think that we all have been responsible for the silent times on this
list. I remember it being pretty active when I subscribed, back in 2006 in
the times of SqueakFest and OLPC. In fact 2006 was the first time I left my
country to attend to SqueakFest. After that I changed, but the community
was kind of the same. I found other Smalltalk variants more suited with my
needs, but I hold dearly Etoys and many of ideas that crystallize in
several variants of Smalltalk.
Maybe I could talk about the themes that I feel are connected with this
list despite of using Pharo to implement them: Critical code+data literacy
for young and adults, hackerspaces & hackathons as alternative educational
spaces and so on. If that is on-topic, I will be glad to share them. I
really liked the strong educational focus of this community and I think
that we can spread that focus to non-school contexts, despite of our
Smalltalk flavor.
Cheers,
Offray
Hi Offray,
I'd be happy to add you to the voting list. Let me know and I'll add you
for next year.
I agree with you. Many years ago I used to be much more active (if you
can believe that). My idea at the time was that we would actually have a
period of time for campaigning. For a while, I started doing community
interviews for news.squeak.org. I had tried also presenting questions,
but I got some feedback that my questions were too focused on what I wanted
and didn't represent the community at large. At that point, I tried to
encourage the community to ask questions instead but that didn't work
either because nobody asked questions. I'm was actually happy that
everyone that is running this year gave some indication of what they are
interested in doing and why they were running. See
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6590 - Posts related to the Election
(chronological).
I can tell you that for the group of people we have running there are no
bad votes! Everyone is terrific! I could highlight some differences but
that won't really help because the community members were correct, I AM
BIASED. :)
What I would recommend is getting on the voters' list. Talk to your
friends and get to know the people that are active in the community. You
might have to subscribe to Squeak-Dev or VM-Dev to get to know people
better. Most of the candidates don't often post to the beginners' list.
The beginners' list has always had a soft spot in my heart. I was here from
the very beginning. That is why I include it in my election emails. Wow,
just looking the beginners' list started in May 2006[1], it's been 12
years! Once you have a good idea of what the community needs, you could
ask questions! Talk to the candidates. Your questions will probably be
helpful for others that didn't take the time to ask but might want to know
the answer too.
Do let us know If you have other suggestions on ways we can improve or
write me directly. I will do whatever I can to help!
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum
[1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2006-May/
thread.html
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
Post by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi,
I have seen the voting call, but I don't know who I could vote for. I
think that we have excellent candidates list, but having low voting rates
is, for me a symptom of low communication rates, not about the voting
candidates, but about what is happening in general in the community.
So, how can approach the more structural program about improving
community participation and communication so, we can have a more informed
voting campaign and proactivity from voters and the community in general.
Cheers,
Offray
Hi All,
Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME TO VOTE!
You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard for people to vote?
We are on track to have our lowest vote count ever. The number of voters
is going down year to year but the drop this year is significant. I'm sure
we can do better!
Please let me know if you have trouble finding your ballot. I can resend
it to you.
Thanks!
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
Beginners mailing list
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
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David T. Lewis
2018-02-05 16:04:51 UTC
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+1000

Definitely on topic. Thanks for speaking up, and I too am interested in what
you have to say.

Dave
Post by Ron Teitelbaum
Hi Offray,
Thank you for your email. Certainly, I think what you have to say is
on-topic. Please do share.
All the best,
Ron
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna C??rdenas <
Post by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Ron,
I'm pretty sure that the people in the voting list are pretty good. I
can't vote because I don't know how to choose one over, without being part
of other mailing list, which brings me back to what is happening in this
list and how to improve it.
I think that we all have been responsible for the silent times on this
list. I remember it being pretty active when I subscribed, back in 2006 in
the times of SqueakFest and OLPC. In fact 2006 was the first time I left my
country to attend to SqueakFest. After that I changed, but the community
was kind of the same. I found other Smalltalk variants more suited with my
needs, but I hold dearly Etoys and many of ideas that crystallize in
several variants of Smalltalk.
Maybe I could talk about the themes that I feel are connected with this
list despite of using Pharo to implement them: Critical code+data literacy
for young and adults, hackerspaces & hackathons as alternative educational
spaces and so on. If that is on-topic, I will be glad to share them. I
really liked the strong educational focus of this community and I think
that we can spread that focus to non-school contexts, despite of our
Smalltalk flavor.
Cheers,
Offray
Hi Offray,
I'd be happy to add you to the voting list. Let me know and I'll add you
for next year.
I agree with you. Many years ago I used to be much more active (if you
can believe that). My idea at the time was that we would actually have a
period of time for campaigning. For a while, I started doing community
interviews for news.squeak.org. I had tried also presenting questions,
but I got some feedback that my questions were too focused on what I wanted
and didn't represent the community at large. At that point, I tried to
encourage the community to ask questions instead but that didn't work
either because nobody asked questions. I'm was actually happy that
everyone that is running this year gave some indication of what they are
interested in doing and why they were running. See
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6590 - Posts related to the Election
(chronological).
I can tell you that for the group of people we have running there are no
bad votes! Everyone is terrific! I could highlight some differences but
that won't really help because the community members were correct, I AM
BIASED. :)
What I would recommend is getting on the voters' list. Talk to your
friends and get to know the people that are active in the community. You
might have to subscribe to Squeak-Dev or VM-Dev to get to know people
better. Most of the candidates don't often post to the beginners' list.
The beginners' list has always had a soft spot in my heart. I was here from
the very beginning. That is why I include it in my election emails. Wow,
just looking the beginners' list started in May 2006[1], it's been 12
years! Once you have a good idea of what the community needs, you could
ask questions! Talk to the candidates. Your questions will probably be
helpful for others that didn't take the time to ask but might want to know
the answer too.
Do let us know If you have other suggestions on ways we can improve or
write me directly. I will do whatever I can to help!
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum
[1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2006-May/
thread.html
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna C??rdenas <
Post by Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi,
I have seen the voting call, but I don't know who I could vote for. I
think that we have excellent candidates list, but having low voting rates
is, for me a symptom of low communication rates, not about the voting
candidates, but about what is happening in general in the community.
So, how can approach the more structural program about improving
community participation and communication so, we can have a more informed
voting campaign and proactivity from voters and the community in general.
Cheers,
Offray
Hi All,
Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME TO VOTE!
You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard for people to vote?
We are on track to have our lowest vote count ever. The number of voters
is going down year to year but the drop this year is significant. I'm sure
we can do better!
Please let me know if you have trouble finding your ballot. I can resend
it to you.
Thanks!
All the best,
Ron Teitelbaum
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
Beginners mailing list
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
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Michael Ross-1
2018-02-05 19:06:12 UTC
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I usually vote but this year - no ballot.
Searched everywhere but no sign of it.
Next I emailed Ron for a replacement - no answer.
Something's wrong, probably my old system.

Ron, if after this post, a ballot shows up in my inbox,
I'll vote and return it. If not, I'll just say here
that I've been very pleased with Squeak 5.1
and Squeak website improvements and
completely support the current board.

Michael Ross




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Ron Teitelbaum
2018-02-05 19:11:04 UTC
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Hi Michael,

Sorry I missed your email. I just checked and I didn't get it! :).

I just resent the ballot. Please let me know if you get it.

Thanks for voting!
Post by Michael Ross-1
I usually vote but this year - no ballot.
Searched everywhere but no sign of it.
Next I emailed Ron for a replacement - no answer.
Something's wrong, probably my old system.
Ron, if after this post, a ballot shows up in my inbox,
I'll vote and return it. If not, I'll just say here
that I've been very pleased with Squeak 5.1
and Squeak website improvements and
completely support the current board.
Michael Ross
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Michael Ross-1
2018-02-05 19:50:55 UTC
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Got it. Sent it. Thanks.

Michael



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Ron Teitelbaum
2018-02-05 19:59:33 UTC
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You are welcome!

Ron
Post by Michael Ross-1
Got it. Sent it. Thanks.
Michael
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